Posted: 26 November 2007 at 2:34pm | IP Logged

so much for card rules or the rulebook.  This is one card that was screwed up by the reprinting of it.  Version one was a normal card, Version 2 was made into a persona card... why????? bout the only thing the persona would do is prevnt the opponent from playing an IR and you from using another during the same reaction sequence.

V1 rule 1 states"Played to a reaction card already in play IN THE FLEET"  V2 #1 states "Played to a reaction card"  this made the card far more vague and open to interpretation.  Took it from the fleet to anywhere.

Our assumption for reaction cards were they were played to or against the card.  What this meant was if I played a card affecting the opponents volley by redirection it was played against his ship(assumed misfire, bad targetting computer, etc).  If the volley was reduced, it was played to our ship( assumedhardened armor, nonvital systems, grazing shot etc), but all this is up to individual interpretation.  so with V1 many cards could not be IR'd since they were aginst his ship in his fleet, V2 allows more.

V1#2 rule"Allows that card to react as if it were just played in reaction mode from the hand to ANY LOCATION" V2#2 states "the reaction cardmay use its functions in reation mode, MOVING TO ANY LOCATION.Any reaction card may only be used once each complete turn"     Both say to any location and doesn't say "any location in the fleet", so obviously both Geko and Were ignore the rule "card rules take precedent over the rulebook"   The argument of Were's that you can't IR the UT since it already reacted goes against the card rule ; please note the bold underline word USED . But we did'nt use it this way either since the first printing did say a card already in play in the fleet.  This was useful to use usually C-class card that were already in play but could be used elsewhere, marine, science officer, damage control teams.  before you think this is a strong card, it allows you to use cards that yopu may not normally use throughout your fleet, but many of the really useful cclass card would discard the IR.  The reprint of this rule put in the stipulation that the card the IR was played to cannot jump 14 times, so you could not use the astreroid shield to protect the whole fleet.

V1 rule 3 'immediately return this card to hand if the affected reaction card is of equal or lesser strength then this card, immediately discard this card otherwise"  V2 states "return this card to the hand if the reaction card is of equal or lesser strength, otherwise discard this card after use"  pretty much the same.

I say your ruling is wrong, (my opinion) and none of your arguments seem founded.  IF I ever play with any of you as shall of course go with your ruling, with a little argument and much pouting but still overruled.

Posted: 27 November 2007 at 2:17pm | IP Logged

the O3 is a powerful card by allowing a card to go anywhere???  R/E1 Civilian Transporter can allow me to tranport a card anywhere....R/E1 terain attack Shuttle allow me to do a TNB mission hence transport anywhere, R/E2 clown car, R/E2 transport shuttle, etc  In my example we used the IR to prevent and kill a card you played, of course with the marine he kills your card, the IR is discarded and the marine is stuck on your planet,   With most of the cards I named I can do the same except my marine is safe and I keep the transport card.

What makes the card powerful?  even if you allow it to IR the UT to the top of the pecking order your losing the card and using up two cards instead of one.  Moving a card to the opponent fleet is no different then using a transport card in react mode.