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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:20am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

I should have seen this sooner.  Spiritual Leader States: Allows All Opponent Monsters  to be affected by...... Its an Entity it overrides  the individual card rule, Particularly being that it would be the most currently played card.

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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:25am | IP Logged Quote RobPro

Not if the monster was played after the entity. Also, look at the C8 Spiritual leader. It states that research can hurt opponent monsters.

Does the ability work for the C10, but not the C8? I've been playing that it works for both, but I'm curious how a tournament might have ruled it.
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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:37am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 That is a tricky one(played after the entity) After all it is an entity But most of all it states it Affects all monsters.CardRule... As for the C8 Spirtual Leader it states  All monsters are affected by Research Points To me that word All is the key definer. I would think that needs a Call Geko What do you think?

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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:43am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

Sounds to me like time of play would denote if the monster could be affected for either case, When I think about it

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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:54am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

I don't think when a card is played has any effect on the ruling. How are you going to remember which was played first after a couple rounds of play in multiplayer format.

And, I don't have a copy of GI#1 in front of me, but let me tell you one thing. I wouldn't go by it for any card ruling. That came out way before Universe Edition. Probably came out around New Empires.
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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 10:55am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

I would rule that the C8 does not effect "can only" monsters (including phaser eels), but the C10 can.
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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 1:58pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

What if you play the C8 Spiritual adviser in reaction? That is definitely after it.

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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 2:20pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

See above.

Gekonauak wrote:
I don't think when a card is played has any effect on the ruling.
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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 6:13am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 Can you show me a later update that would elimanate that rule?

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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 7:49am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

OK I reread all the rules looking and except for that GI issue I could not find anywhere else that the last card played takes presidence. All the newer rules in 2.0- 2.1 say the last reaction card played takes presidence. Either that was left out of the question/answer or they later just did away with it and changed it to just reaction cards. I guess the earlier writing s are worthless unless they are restated in the new rules. Am I right about that?

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