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bignea
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hey everybody, can anyone explain the rules a little more on the tarra'ki allied argon. little unclear on the aux. shields and heavy weopons.
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On the Aux. Shields:
If activated the strongest shield bank applies. So if a ship has 4 shields and 3 Aux. Shields, both fully repaired, if it takes a hit (either from a card play or a weapons volley) which does 4 damage the main shield bank is reduced to 0. If it then takes another hit (from another card play or from another players weapons volley) the Aux. Shield is now the stronger shield bank with it's strength of 3, so the Aux. Shields take damage from the second hit.
On the Positron Emitters:
If a ship has **/** emitters it can do a maximum of 4 damage with it's emitiers, however if it allocates more than 2 energy (to power the emmitters after the /) the firing ship takes one damage for each energy allocated. So if you allocate 3 energy it will take one damage and be able to deal 3 in weapons volleys, and if you allocate 4 energy it will take 2 damage and be able to deal 4 damage in weapons volleys.
Edited by ericbsmith on 04 June 2006 at 4:58pm
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bignea
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ok thanks! now what about shield refits, does it aply to both and the argon equipment E8 flux work on the emmiters- x3 damage per heavy, and how about hull rotations. i guess do all technology work from either empires?
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rules wrote:
| - Allied ships can use adapted technology: Allied ships may use foreign
technology cards belonging to the empire they're allied with. In addition, an exclusive technology
card of their allied empire may be used on an Allied ship if that ship possesses a card that would
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R/E4 Hull Rotation is neither Foreign nor Exclusive tech, but rather specifically limited to Argonian Ships, so cannot be used by the Tarra'ki.
E7 Argonian Strobe is a Foreign tech, so may be used freely by the Tarra'ki (though note it can only be stocked in an Argonian deck because it has Argonian in the card name).
E8 Energy Flux Mode Enhancement is an Exclusive tech, which means it could be used by a Tarra'ki with an Engineer or some other card that normally allows use of Foreign tech. However, note that the Flux Enhancement specifically increases damage of the "energy flux" weapons, and since the Tarra'ki don't have "energy flux" but rather have "positron emitters" they cannot benefit from using the Energy Flux Mode Enhancement.
Edited by ericbsmith on 01 May 2007 at 1:03pm
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bignea
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ok thanks for the input
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(though note it can only be stocked in an Argonian deck because it has Argonian in the card name).
Please note that this rule was created before the Allied rules. On future rules revisions we probably would have changed the title of the card. This card and probably a few others to allow Allied ships to work better with their allies.
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Actually, I've long played by the house rule that the Allied decks can stock the Major Empire cards they're allied with as if they were a minor empire. Thus, the Tarra'ki could not only stock an Argonian Strobe but also Argonian ships. This allows the Allied empires to field some good high strength cards while still maintaining their flavor.
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Actually, I've long played by the house rule that the Allied decks can
stock the Major Empire cards they're allied with as if they were a minor
empire.
The group I've played with in the past also has used a similar variation.
For example; we play that Corporate Pirates are Allied with the Corporate
Aggressors. As such, we allow the use of the R/E3 Shroud by the
Corporate Aggressors for their ships.
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I was just rereading this thread...
Would a shield refit apply to both the primary and auxiliary shield banks on
Tarraki ships?
If so, this makes shield refits very effective for them.
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Yes, they do, and it does.
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Though it's not so much more effective than the extra effectiveness of Phasers on a Scorpead ship or Heavy Weapon refits on a Corporate ship. Yes, it's more effective than the same card on other empires, but not game breakingly effective.
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It's still better than nothing, particularly with the Tarraki equipment cards
that let you use both shield banks together.
I've been thinking about what you said about phaser refits with Scorpeads,
etc. I use this tactic extensively in my Scorpy and Corporate decks... I stack
up 3 E7 Extreme Phaser Refits on the 3 S7 Scorpead Battlecruisers in my
deck, and with the 3x magnifier it has, it doubles the damage the ship is
capable of. Hardly a marginal improvement... And in my Corporate deck, a
few well placed E3 Heavy Weapon refits doubles the damage my VariPlas
systems do... not as much of an improvement as with the phaser refits on
the Scorpy ships, but still, it's a good payoff for an E3.
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Let me understand this correctly...what if your Tarraki ship gets hit with one
7 point volley? Do both shields activate thus stopping all 7 damage or do
you have to wait for another volley to come in before the aux shield kicks
in? I would think both shields could work in tandem to stop a big volley?
Yes?
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No, only the strongest shield bank applies on a given Volley. For both banks to work together you'd need to play the R/E3 Shield Synchronizer (Tarra'ki specific equipment from the AF set).
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You would have to wait for a second volley.
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