Posted: 04 October 2006 at 8:54am | IP Logged

I thought Id give you guys something to argue about and post my groups restricted list.Our thinking on this was -why should these cards be in every deck and what about getting new players into the game when a lot of these cards are hard to come by.You can play 3 cards from this list {all other deck stocking rules apply}

L9 Discard Equivalacy

L9 Accelerated Time line

L6 (the artifact that lets you play cards or draw cards)

r/c9 Temporal Engineer

O6&8 Tech Breakthrough

O7 Capital Revitalization

O7 Surprise attack

O9 Alliance Tready

O9 Catastophic Repitition

R/O10 now for something compleatly different

R/O8 Reserve call up

O10 Time Portal

looking back on this list 6 years into it, I think Im questioning Capital revitalization and Surprize attack but than we all would have to change our decks

Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:01am | IP Logged

Im not whinning about card availability,Im talking taking cards out of your deck that otherwise MUST go in.You must have max accelerated timelines,temporal engeneers,discard equivalency,tech break through,reserve callup,alliance tready or you are a moron.Thats the same 12 cards that go in every deck all the time.If you lower that number to 3 total that allows creativity back in.It also allows you to make a great deal of decks that are compeditive .When Im done I will have 100 decks,if I used the correct rules I could only have about 10

which sounds more fun 100 or 10?

you can settle for a measly 10 but Ive got 10 kinds of leopan at my beck and call so when I anounce Leopan and every one else announces I can taylor the deck to my exact needs

The resstricted list is not chaining you ,

ITS FREEING YOU!

Posted: 18 July 2007 at 2:09pm | IP Logged

-In my long and (admittedly non-GE) rough history of playing many CCGs, there are cards in every game that many will consider "must have". The truth is, depending on what type of deck the individual wants to play, that phrase is misleading.

If you want to squash your opponent in the fastest way possible, then you design your deck with "must haves" that speed up the deck and speed up the process of getting those awesome cards into play.

If you want to slow the game down and brow-beat your opponent into submission with denial after denial after counter, you stock your deck with cards that are "must-have" for that strategy.

If you want to play a fun game with friends, you can put powerful cards in the deck (including every "must have" you can fit in there) but there's nothing that says you have to play that Catastrophic Repetition you just drew onto your Dragon King to obliterate that neat HQ across the table. Why not use it to destroy that S1 ship with a brilliant display of firepower, get those cards out there for everyone to look at and see what it can do, but not spoil the game in the process?

In the end, it's not the cards that are must haves, it's the player's demeanor and approach to the game that make it or break it in any CCG. Bringing it back on point, in my view there is no need to ban cards. It started with Magic, and is jsut as off the mark today as it was those many years ago when the different tourney levels were born. It is helpful and exciting (trust me) for new players to see those bad boys. Just don't beat us over the head with them to the point of annoyance and i'm happy.

Talk later, have a good one.....Lobo

Posted: 20 July 2007 at 8:41am | IP Logged

-Oh sure, pick on the new guy!

See, this is why i come here. I learn something new every day...

...after i go home and check my copy of the rules to make sure you aren't pullin' my leg...

Lobo

Posted: 20 July 2007 at 12:57pm | IP Logged

-I don't see anything necessarily *bad* about it, i just don't think it is necessary. If someone can't resist making the best possible deck to obliterate opponents with and those opponents are trying to learn the game, mayhaps that individual shouldn't be playing with new players.

Whenever banning or limiting cards come into discussion, in *most* cases and CCGs the problem isn't the cards.....Lobo

Posted: 23 July 2007 at 12:30pm | IP Logged

-I think if i knew someone that had 300 copies of a card that he only let one other player use to prevent me, a recurring opponent, from having/using/getting to play with, i would not play with that person...

...either that or i would bring a zippo to the next game we faced each other in.....Lobo

Posted: 24 July 2007 at 1:01pm | IP Logged

-I think you missed my point entirely, but i wasn't clear i suppose.

Anyway, interesting that the company would allow people to pay for the right to make cards they wanted, in limited quantities no less. Seems great for those with connections, bad for the average player if the player base is wide enough.

I'll all for the collectible aspect of anything, but for the game to be competitive i would hope the promos were not the baddest cards around hands down. Talk later, have a good day.....Lobo

Posted: 24 July 2007 at 2:03pm | IP Logged

-Thanks for the explanation and insight into the process. I remember talking with Major Rakal (Kathy) over at Decipher when she was still responding to my emails about the ins and outs of getting a CCG made and distributed. Always like to hear and read about the "behind the scenes" stuff.

As for the promo cards themselves, i've seen a few here and there and they look fun to play. Now i just need to see if i can get some of those sets to include in my own decks.

Talk later, have a good one.....Lobo

Posted: 27 July 2007 at 12:13pm | IP Logged

Our (Matchbox, bignea & myself) way of dealing with  Promo cards, is to limit the stocking of them same as a level 10 (Most are that powerful anyway). You can have 1 promo card in your deck for every 25 cards you have.

This keeps them in the game, without allowing them totally dominate it.