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Tarquon
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 8:59am | IP Logged Quote Tarquon

If I play a card (B) to a terrain played against a card in another fleet (A), is card B in play against the other fleet?  Does it matter what the card types are?

for instance, if I play a base to my black hole, is the base also against the opponent's fleet?  If I play a ship to the black hole, is it against the opponent's fleet or will it protect my HQ?
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Lobo
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 9:13am | IP Logged Quote Lobo

-The terrain card is a location. I'm not sure the rules cover this, but logic would dictate anything played to a location that is against a fleet would also be considered against a fleet unless the card allows otherwise.

That location, in your above example, is against the opponent's fleet. So the Black hole shows up right next to my Reactionary World. The ship/base played to the Black Hole is played to a valid terrain location. That location is against the fleet, so the ship/base must also be against the fleet. 

I don't know if this is possible, but instead of "against the fleet" let's pick another location--the Time Origin. If you could conceivably play terrain to the Time Origin, any ship or base played to the terrain would also be in the Time Origin. Same logic, both are considered locations, both should work the same way unless i'm missing something that isn't obvious in the rules.

I'm not sure if this would allow card functions, however, that are triggered if against a fleet as some may assume it is played to a location belonging to the opponent. That's my thoughts, i'll stop confusing the issue and wait for the real answer.....Lobo

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Galaktische
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 1:59pm | IP Logged Quote Galaktische

I don't know what you call the base described above - I'm leaning towards saying it is in play in your fleet.

However, I feel that only cards which say they can be played against an opponent's fleet can be considered to be 'in play against an opponents fleet'.

Call them what you will but they don't trigger any of the rules which require a card to be in play against an opponent fleet'.

J--

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Gekonauak
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 2:18pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

see below

Edited by Gekonauak on 10 August 2007 at 9:04am
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Tarquon
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 3:34pm | IP Logged Quote Tarquon

Does that mean I can't play a crew to a ship (or an ability to a monster) in play against an opponent location?  Is terrain treated differently?  Does it combine (or some similar concept)?
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bignea
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Posted: 09 August 2007 at 4:56pm | IP Logged Quote bignea

Gekonauak wrote:
wow, finally someone that can come up with questions that cause me to think. Hey everybody, take note!

No, you can only play cards to cards in your fleet. You cannot actually play to a card against your opponents fleet. A card may be moved to that location, but what really is the point of that?!?

What about if i play a M9 kraken - played against a fleet and damaged by research. I should be able to play the A5 genetic variant - played to a monster normally damaged by research.

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Gekonauak
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Posted: 10 August 2007 at 9:04am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

wow, finally someone that can come up with questions that cause me to think. Hey everybody, take note!

[edited because I shouldn't attempt to answer such in-depth questions on zero sleep]

If I play a card (B) to a terrain played against a card in another fleet (A), is card B in play against the other fleet?

Yes, then card (B) is against the opponent fleet as well.
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