Posted: 03 April 2008 at 2:00pm | IP Logged

the hyperspace detonator is considered heavy weapons, hence the black square the precedes it.  so if you have the S7 battlecruiser, it has 1 hyperspace detonator, and 3 phasers, and you decide to use the heavy weapons, that 1 hyperspace detonator, is equal to 3 points of damage (because of the 3 phasers), thus needing a heavy wepons backfire to negate it.

so on the S9 there is 2 hyperspace detonators, and 4 phasers, so if you use the heavy weapons, your 2 heavy weapons do 4 points each. and with phaser refits and detonator refits, people wont like you to much lol.

Posted: 04 April 2008 at 11:35am | IP Logged

Gekonauak wrote: HYPERSPACE DETONATOR: The hyperspace detonator is the Scorpead's heavy weapon. When loaded, each phaser on the card is treated as a heavy weapon causing 1 point of damage for each armed hyperspace detonator.

well it would give the Scorp a little nerfing they deserve......

Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:38pm | IP Logged

Gekonauak wrote: Hell, just put in 1 or 2 more R/T2 Ateroid Shields and you will reck havoc with Scorps.

Ill go you 1 better use Partial regeneration and repair delivery on your asteroid shield

Posted: 04 April 2008 at 5:59pm | IP Logged

HYPERSPACE DETONATOR: The Hyperspace Detonator is the Scorpeads heavy weapon. When loaded, each Phaser on the card is treated as a heavy weapon causing 1 point of damage for each armed Hyperspace Detonator.
    - A ship's Phaser Magnifier may not be armed on a turn when the Hyperspace Detonator is armed.
    - Scorpead units may not have heavy weapon refits (refits adding heavy weapons) applied to them.

ok as for me saying adding the heavy weapon refit, forget that. but if phasers cant be armed while using the heavy weapons there is no phasers for the phaser malfuntion to nagate

Posted: 06 April 2008 at 5:18pm | IP Logged

so you can use a phaser malfuntion or a heavy weapons backfire on it?? that dont make any sense to me.

Posted: 06 April 2008 at 6:28pm | IP Logged

The way i look at it, each heavy weopon does 1 point of damage per phaser the ship has. Your not fireing the phasers but the heavy weopons.

ship has 1 heavy weopon and 4 phasers, the heavy does 4 points of damage.

Posted: 07 April 2008 at 1:58am | IP Logged

Or to put it another way, the Scorpead Phasers are just multi-purpose/multi-use. Flip a switch and their damage is multiplied; flip another switch and it is focused enough to damage terrain (or other stubborn targets which can only be damage by heavy weapons fire). Flip the switches off and they're just plain vanilla Phasers.

GE Card Museum

Posted: 09 April 2008 at 8:16am | IP Logged

-I voted in the poll above, but since it does not allow replies, i will post my qualifications here. I think, conditionally, the phaser malfunction should not stop the HD. The power is being diverted ot the Heavy weapons, you have to spend ammo resource to fuel it, and the phasers are no longer 'treated as' phasers according to the rules. Logic would dictate that, if they are not treated as phasers, they cannot be affected by things that *only* affect phasers.

If they can be affected by phaser malfunction, then they should also be able to be affected by anything that can modify heavy weapons fire as well. That seems unnecessarily punitive in my estimation. Scorpeads may need a "nerf" in your opinion, but this one does not make sense.....Lobo 

Posted: 11 April 2008 at 3:52pm | IP Logged

whoa!!! back up the logic then.  With your logic in play, if the phaser power is shut off then what powers the HD?  Sure it has the nucleid diosis cells but the phasers went kaput with a phaser malfunction so no power reaches the HD nucleid diosis cells...  If the Hyper Det wouild do  1 point for each phaser eg 4 points per HD (assuming four phasers)  then that would be a 4 point volley.  But it does not say that but instead says each phaser does heavy damage for each HD armed.  For an S9 Battleship 2 HD and 4 phasers the volleys would be far different.  With the phaser power going thru the HD it would result in 2 possible volleys of 4 each, but with the HD fueling the phasers you get 4 possible volleys of 2 each. 

All this would be much easier if someone would show us the mechanics of the scorpead fleet and HD.  The HD could be something akin to a one shot focusing lens that enhances the phasers power.

But yes i agree allowing the phaser malfunction to disrupt the hyper dets would be a severe limitation on the scorpeads.  Now for the other side of the coin.  If the phasers were fired, would you still be able to fire the  HD.. for example R/L5 defensive overide-forces you to fire phasers????  would this negate the HD or are you forcing the HD to fire at the asteroids!!!!?  and the actual other side of the coin... for the above S9 battleship.... R/L5 heavy weapons backfire- 2 points of damage to the ship or 8? 

Posted: 11 April 2008 at 4:20pm | IP Logged

you can only do one or the other, if you power up the hd you can only fire the hd not phasers. The phaser points only indicates how much damage the hd does, like 1 hd with 4 phaser points does 4 points of damage to 1 target. you're not fireing the phasers you are firing the hds.

now if you are using the phaser points as phasers you get the multiplier and you do'nt get the use of the hds.

so phaser malfuction does'nt work if you are firing hds.