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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 12:06pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

Galactus would like to mention he is selling his C10 War Veteran on ebay.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 2:06pm | IP Logged Quote werewolflht65

I have one of those too, but it's missing most of the top left corner, as it was a victim of the fire...

Anyone want it?


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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 3:01pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

Hang on to that wolf it may be worth a small fortune someday. Maybe I'll burn a couple corners on a few ( Just to keep up) You were there? Did they burn anything else? (Besides Brain cells)Whats the reserve? Any Bets. I say 50

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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 3:07pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

Everyone who attended took home a scorched C10.

Although I should have required them to be a little more burnt. Some people got away with very little marks.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 3:16pm | IP Logged Quote Lobo

-Any word on numbers/print run for this card?

Not that i don't believe ya as to rarity, just curious more than anything.....Lobo

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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 3:50pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

See page 8 of Galactic Fire #2.

Only 200 escaped the blaze unscathed.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:21pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

Who was in charge of the cards in the office Geko? I had about 2 dozen that got destroyed by water damage. I have 3 or 4 that were in card sleeves in albums, I kept those in my house and took them when I moved. I also bought one on e-bay on a very low Buy Now from someone who didn,t know the value. That Buy now hurts a lot of sellers more than helps. If your not sure of the value don't guess and list what seems alot in buy now Generaly in an auction given time it will bring more. But I was glad that he did list Buy Now and that I watch the auctions alot.

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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:41am | IP Logged Quote werewolflht65

As a collectible card, it has value, somewhere around $100-125. As a playable card, it's next to worthless. I'd rather run a War Prophet.

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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 1:40am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

I was just refering to the reserve for a fun guess at what it would turn out to be I have seen the reserve from 20 to 120 on these when they come up .  I remember seeing one go for 165 a few years ago. I think the C4 is rarer.Does anyone know?

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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:03pm | IP Logged Quote Eaglepreacher

It was my understanding that both war vets were awrded at tourneys, The c4 for local where the sponsor could request from the company a copy, while the C10 was for the larger company sponsored tourneys....
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:13pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 I was under the impression that the C4 was from the time of Primary. and that when Universe came along the company upgraded the rank to C10. I just wondered why more C4 aren't out there.

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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote Lobo

-Actually, wolf, in the age of eBay a card isn't worth a range set by any appraisal or market rag (like the evil that is Beckett) but ultimately what someone will pay (Econ majors stay outta this)

For instance, i am not a newcomer to hobbies, antiques, collectibles, etc. Before ebay, you could reasonably guarantee that these items would hold a similar resale value across sellers if you were to stop into their stores. With the advent of eBay, the prices have dropped considerably for these items across the board.

So, while you may say the card is worth $100+, that only applies to *your* value, not the actual market value. Similar when determining insurance value for these categories of items. You may get an insurance appraisal of $10k on that Babe Ruth autographed ball you have, but the market/resale value is probably closer to $2k-$3k if your ball is similar to most that pop up at auctions a couple times a year.

I certainly hope the seller has good luck on this card, but i'd be hesitant to throw any numbers out there on cost that may mislead folks on the actual value of the thing.

As the game has few active players, i think we'll see in 8+ days what it's worth to someone soon. And for the record, the print run means less than some think. I have a "1 of 1" Jeff Bagwell card that i probably couldn't get more than $20 for on ebay. And even though he's not a great player, Jeff Bagwell is certainly more popular than GE....Lobo, wishing the seller and any potential bidders good luck

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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 3:32pm | IP Logged Quote werewolflht65

I have a few C-4s that I may post to eBay just to see if the market is there for them. The 4 is actually more of a playable card then the 10 is.

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 6:32am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 Lobo I agree with your take on how E-bay has affected the Collectable,s , Antique and Arts Markets. In all though condition remains the true center of value. In GE the flaws in the card print is overlooked to some degree because it was common as a result of poor printing practices. I have a slew of Lairds that have  ink smears on them and I believe it was common throughout the run as I have seen many in collections in person and on the internet. I have a case of off center Dwarfs that were miss cut. Yet as a collector I look for the undamaged (Mint)ones for my actual collection. In gameplay the cards get worn and those cards are just that Worn. GE has not suffered that fate for the most part because so few can  actualy get a game together and those who do use card sleeves.(A Great little invention.) What the war vet goes for will depend on so many varibles that it would be inpossible to be sure though I would hazzard a guess that economic security will play a part. As an investment I think the long term value is very much higher than what it will bring in this market. All through my collecting I have seen a steady rise in the collectablity and value of the rarer cards of GE. Given the Economic slump I still would hazzard that though this card will not be at its all time high it will hold its own

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 9:23am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

Biegel wrote:
Who was in charge of the cards in the office Geko? ...I have 3 or 4 that were in card sleeves in albums


I was in charge of the entities in the office. Which is why you didn't get many when you received the cards from the office. I still have them. ;)

The 3 or 4 in the sleeves were the office's reference set.

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I think the C4 is rarer.Does anyone know?

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It was my understanding that both war vets were awrded at tourneys, The c4 for local where the sponsor could request from the company a copy, while the C10 was for the larger company sponsored tourneys....


What Eaglepreacher said is correct. Furthermore the C4 was arround for 2 years longer than the C10. The C4 was awarded to many players, while the C10 was only awarded to about a dozen or so.

And, no, neither are actually worth playing.

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 10:46am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak

I also have a lot of the original promo cards. S8 Ship of the Ancients, T4 White Dwarf, etc.

I'm thinking about holding an event over the summer and giving some out to each person that attends.

Hell, I could give out T/B 10s to everyone that attends, if I were in a giving mood. :)

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 4:53pm | IP Logged Quote werewolflht65

Why do that? Just list them on eBay.

Personally, I have a bunch of T-4's and a handful of S-8s. I posted a couple of S-8's on eBay, but I'll hang onto the T-4s.

As for T/B-10s well, you could make a nice piece of change listing those on eBay. I sold my last one to Mr Stefanko.


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Posted: 22 January 2008 at 5:54am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 The War Vet just jumped agin and it is still early. Round and Round He goes where he stopps nobody knows. 

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Posted: 22 January 2008 at 6:54am | IP Logged Quote RobPro

What's up with the guy charging $12 shipping and handling on all his $3 auctions?
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Posted: 22 January 2008 at 7:06am | IP Logged Quote werewolflht65

RobPro wrote:
What's up with the guy charging $12 shipping and handling on all his $3 auctions?


What auctions for GE cards are you looking at? There isn't a single Auction with a shipping price higher then $8.35...

And, if you're referring to the $8.35 auctions, those are MINE.

And, furthermore, I thoroughly explain what that cost covers, plus, if you win more then one auction, I always combine shipping.

But, for those of you who are math challenged, here's the breakdown:

$4.60 for Priority Mail, .65 for Delivery Confirmation, $3 for time/travel expense to USPS.

If you don't like it, don't bid.


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Posted: 22 January 2008 at 2:01pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

 That guy shut out anyone who doesn,t use PayPal. Least wise thats my take on it. So I just sit and watch the tide roll in. Course if he should change his mind......Itchy trigger finger( waiting to pounce)

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Posted: 22 January 2008 at 4:58pm | IP Logged Quote RobPro

Ah. I saw the price of $8.35, and in the auction description it only said there was an additional charge of $3 to cover traveling to the post office, so I assumed that was added in to a total of $11.35.

I don't plan on bidding.
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Posted: 23 January 2008 at 12:47pm | IP Logged Quote Lobo

-For some reason you see folks add on "incidental" fees (or simply more emphasis on the handling portion of shipping & handling) moreso with real tiny things on eBay or real big things. Lots of sellers charge bunches for S&H in the sports card area of auctions, and quite frankly that's how they make money. Sell a bunch of singles for the low low price of a penny, but charge $5 a pop for S&H per card. One trip to the PO, one gallon of gas max in most areas, and they're making a decent amount for a hobby.

Likewise, and more understandably, the price for handling jumps with large furniture, equipment, etc. even above payment to a third-party shipper and/or receiver. However, i always found it curious that mid-level items in size didn't see the same price level on S&H on average. Books, for instance. Or clothing sales. May be different now as i haven't been active on eBay for a few years, but that's the way it was and appears to still be from a cursory look this week.

I ain't suggesting this is bad. On the contrary, do as you wish. It always made me tilt my head, though, that it was more prevalent in charge schedules for some items versus others.

Happy hunting all, have a good day.....Lobo

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Posted: 23 January 2008 at 1:28pm | IP Logged Quote RobPro

I just think it's kind of funny. I only had to spend $10-11 in shipping for 16 boxes of primary when I first got into this game.
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Posted: 27 January 2008 at 8:59am | IP Logged Quote Biegel

Hurry Hurry step right up the War Vet has jumped agin. Will it bust the hundred mark? Will it reach a new high? Place your bids while theres still time. Same Batty time same Batty station WRO-GOFORIT. Ah so the little dude ain't all there. CERTIFIED I say.Check it out you might be suprized.

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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 1:16pm | IP Logged Quote Biegel

The war vet is gone folks. He found a new home. Not an all time record but it goes to show he held his own. Look at all the bidders,see the game is not dead. There are alot of followers that don't use this site. They may be watching it though. Beware the White Tiger that lurks in the evening mist.

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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 5:26pm | IP Logged Quote Lobo

-I don't think 6 bidders makes the game any more "alive" than it really should be. I cannot possibly understand why someone would bid that much, but then again i spend more than i should on other items, so everyone has their habits i suppose. To whoever won, congratulations and i hope you enjoy it. To the seller, good grief you got lucky.....Lobo
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 I think at least two of the bidders on E-bay were dealers. There are alot of collectors that don't play the game(I wonder why?) I believe that some of those collectors tell card dealers to keep a look out for the Vet and other very rare deals. I know several Dealers that collect as well. Some of the best that I found were through them. That isn't a serious problem for those who actualy play as generaly the cards players want are the work cards and not as rare as the collectors are looking for. There are still a ton of GE in card stores through out the world, The problem is finding them. They are no longer up front or even on the shelfs but mostly in storerooms in the back. The War vet is a lot harder to find because of its method of distrubution. A few winners and those who were at the Great Burning are where you find most of them. Say there are a 1000 of them in exsistance, It would be easy for 900 to all ready be in private collections. That leaves a few Dealers that had conections and got a few laying in drawers some where. As an investor I would not be ready to part with any I had cause since I started following this game there has been a steady increase in value of the hard to get cards. Money in the bank hasn't accrued as much interest.

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