Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:00am | IP Logged

Aren't the Nobles their own Empire and thus hard to build a deck around? At least I've never seen one used before...

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Posted: 29 July 2007 at 2:21pm | IP Logged

-At least you're one up on me. I've never even seen a Noble card before. And to keep this on point, if the EMF counts as an "armor system" there's always that L2 that disables armor systems for a turn. If it's not an armor system, pretend i said that works great against Leopan instead...

Lobo, basking in his relative GE virginity.

Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:51am | IP Logged

-T6 Black Holes take 3 energy. The card indicates that it takes 3 natural energy first if available. If it can't get 3 natural energy out of the thing, then economy used as energy will feed it.

The wording doesn't seem to allow you to take the economy points as is, however. So i imagine the function of that particular terrain card would play out more like a reaction in preventing the economy from being used as energy only, not draining the output entirely.

It's not clear on this point, but i imagine the T1 microscopic one works in much the same way. Played against the fleet, if the fleet has nothing but economy in order to use energy they have to feed their first one to that terrain....Lobo

Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:25am | IP Logged

-For purposes of the Black Hole, it doesn't matter. The wording on the card makes that an easy answer. Various cards draw a distinction between "natural energy" and other. When the economy point is declared used as a certain other type of resource, a fair interpretation would be that it has become that resource, it is just not naturally so.

To say that the economy is still economy even when being used as a supply point doesn't make sense. And the cards that affect such things don't seem to indicate that's the way it is intended, but obvioulsy there isn't an official word on it.

Bottom line: Black holes still work against economy as an effective energy-draining idea, and if i am playing a game my vote would be that economy is economy until declared it is used as something else. Then it becomes that something else for that short time. This would potentially leave economy terrain vulnerable to Shipping Delays, Black Holes, and other nasties, but to rule otherwise would seem unfair and give an advantage to economy points above the already obvious flexibility advantage. And that's just...well...unfair.....Lobo