Posted: 15 April 2009 at 2:32pm | IP Logged

The card reads:

-Played against the lowest strength terrain in an opponent fleet.

-Points produced by the terrain are subtracted from the affected fleet instead of being produced.

-The affected terrain may not be discarded during the discard phase.

If an opponent ship moves to another terrain to steal points, can I use the planet he moved to as the resources that are not being produced? Must I tell him, before his turn, which resources I am subtracting and from where? If there is a base that multiplies resources on a on a terrain that is moved against, must I double the resources before his turn or tell him the base will not engage or won't double resources this turn?

Forcing a base to double resources when its not your turn and, especially, using a base that I can chose not to engage during my turn, seems like my opponent is running my cards instead of me.

Here is what I think...the ship stealing points steals them unrestricted since the points are not subtracted until my turn. On my turn, I subtract the points from what is left. The base does not double points until my turn and may even be unengaged in my turn, resulting in a theft of points never produced. Therefor, if all the energy on a terrain is stolen, the base that multiplies energy would have no energy to multiply so no energy would be produced in my turn. As it stands now you guys are saying I must multiply my resources during another guys turn to accomidate the enemy stealing points that may never be produced.

I strongly disagree with everyone here that I must use a base that doubles something if I do not want to double it, even if engaged. That goes with the White Dwarf too. I don't think a person is forced to use card actions on his own cards.

I hate this part of the game...Dan

Posted: 19 April 2009 at 5:02am | IP Logged

From the understanding of my play during the years, you are turning engaging your ships and bases during your turn.  Unless a card play or action disengages it, it is considered engaged until the beginning of your next turn when you decide to continue to keep it going with additional resources.