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Lobo
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Posted: 03 May 2009 at 12:12pm | IP Logged Quote Lobo
-Do cards such as M1 Research Defiler and H5 EM Burst prevent or affect economy points being used as research? The cards read that they alter/affect the "generation" of research points, but economy-producing terrain use economy that basically pretends to be research. Are these cards affective or do i need to get cards that affect economy point generation if i want to truly stall my opponent from making research in modern decks with promo terrain to spare?

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Posted: 03 May 2009 at 6:31pm | IP Logged Quote RobPro
We've always said they affect economy treated as research in my group.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 1:34am | IP Logged Quote MogwaiSC
Same here... we've always played that it affects economy used as research.
I suppose it really depends on how economy is used during allocation, but
I've never really thought it would make a difference.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:57am | IP Logged Quote RobPro
I guess it depends on whether economy "becomes" research points, or if it is just accepted instead of research points.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 10:00am | IP Logged Quote Blacklassie

Our group would play that all economy turned to research would be affected by these cards...

Good day....Dan
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MogwaiSC
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 10:58am | IP Logged Quote MogwaiSC
I just checked Eric's online 2.1 rule book, it says;

" - Economy points are not modified by point modifiers that modify other
types of points even when the economy points are used as that point
type."

I guess this means we've been wrong. The Defiler would not then affect
economy used as research.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 12:34pm | IP Logged Quote Lobo
-Thanks for finding that Mogwai, i've taken the defiler and burst out of my Filarian deck, gonna have to look for other ways to affect that research. May go with Penal Colonies and O4 floods for those terrain that ain't promo.

Thanks again.

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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote MogwaiSC
Try O8 Galactic Depression, it is played against a fleet so that means it
will affect promo terrain that generates economy because it is not
played against the terrain itself.

There is also a hazard, I think it the H5 EM Burst, that interferes with
research production, or it prevents research from being allocated, or
something like that.

And if you have any, T7 Aviary generates repair that can be used to
remove applied research to monsters, dragons, etc.

Also, check out R/C5 Veterinarian; not sure but it might be able to heal
monsters as well as dragons, which means it will repair damage done to
monsters and dragons from applied research.
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Gekonauak
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Posted: 05 May 2009 at 9:33am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak
No, once points are generated they are no longer modified. You generate economy, and then you use the economy as research.

Galactic Depression is a great card, but it does not affect research. And, I think that is what they are going for here.

Yes, the Vet does heal damage to Monsters as weel as Dragons.
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MogwaiSC
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 12:09pm | IP Logged Quote MogwaiSC
Gekonauak wrote:
Galactic Depression is a great card, but it does not
affect research. And, I think that is what they are going for here.


Less economy means less economy to spend on research, that's the point.
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 12:14pm | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak
Galactic Depression does not prevent them from spending economy as research.

Just prevents economy from being used as energy, supply, or ammunition.

http://galacticempires.no-ip.org/images/cards/Occurance/O8_- _Galactic_Depression.jpg

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Posted: 14 May 2009 at 4:57pm | IP Logged Quote MogwaiSC
Gekonauak wrote:
Galactic Depression does not prevent them from
spending economy as research.

Just prevents economy from being used as energy, supply, or
ammunition.

_Galactic_Depression.jpg"> http://galacticempires.no-
ip.org/images/cards/Occurance/O8_-
_Galactic_Depression.jpg


Agh. Okay, I guess I was thinking of another card. Isn't there an
occurrence card that prevents economy production, period? I thought
there was, and that it was played against a fleet, not a specific terrain,
so it would still affect promo terrain not affected by occurrences.
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Gekonauak
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Posted: 15 May 2009 at 8:21am | IP Logged Quote Gekonauak
Hmmm... I don't see any cards that do that. I may be missing it though.
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